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I’m Tanya Lewis.
Fischman: I’m Josh Fischman.
Lewis: We’re Scientific American’s senior health editors.
Today, we’re talking about a bunch of new blood tests for Alzheimer’s disease. They’re a lot easier than existing diagnostics—but they may not always indicate disease. And some doctors warn that there are still a lot of questions about treatment.
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Fischman: So… Alzheimer’s. About six million people in U.S. are afflicted by this type of dementia. It is a thief of minds, a destroyer of memories, and it’s a killer with no cure. I’ve known people who’ve had it, and it’s scary to see what it does. How about you?
Lewis: I've also known someone close to me who has Alzheimer's, and it is a really devastating disease.
I mean, it really takes away a sense of your identity and self, and really a part of your personality, to have this disease. So it’s hard to watch somebody go through that.
Fischman: Yeah, that thing that you said about like losing your identity, losing your memories of yourself and of the people around you is just a devastating thing.
And you also lose the ability to, to take care of yourself, to wash yourself, to cook, to bathe, to do all of these things that you’ve done for your entire life. They’ve suddenly become this thing like a puzzle you can’t solve.
Lewis: But there are finally some new treatments.
One of the hallmarks of Alzheimer’s, physically, is a buildup of this warped protein, amyloid-beta, in the brain. And there are two drugs, Aduhelm and Leqembi, that are designed to clear out these amyloid clumps.
Fischman: Saying amyloid is a hallmark, though, is different than saying it's a cause. There's been a really long debate over causes, and it's not over. There could be other toxic proteins or lost connections among brain cells that actually cause the disease.
Lewis: Right. It could even be a combination of all those things.
But recently, tests with Leqembi suggested that the amyloid-clearing drug slowed down mental decline for several months. So the drug both cleans up amyloid and may help with cognitive problems, at least for a little while.
Fischman: Right. Now, because there are amyloid-focused treatments— even if they’re not super effective—companies are rushing to bring out diagnostic tests to tell you if you have abnormal amyloid in your brain. Two of the newest look for fragments of these amyloid proteins in your blood.
Lewis: Simple blood tests sound pretty good. So how accurate are they?
Fischman: Turns out they’re good, at least at connecting what’s in your blood to what’s in your brain. Amyloid starts in your brain, and some drifts down your spine in your cerebrospinal fluid. From there a little tiny bit leaks out into your blood.
One test, called Precivity AD, can detect the proteins with 93 percent accuracy, according to one study. Another test, AD Detect, just launched by the big national diagnostic lab Quest, does it at close to the same rate. That’s compared to the gold standards in Alzheimer’s diagnostic tests.
Lewis: And those gold standard tests are a lot more complicated to do. One is a lumbar puncture of the spine, using a needle to draw out spinal fluid. The other is a brain scan called PET that uses a special dye to highlight clumps of amyloid in your brain.
Fischman: Those are the two best at finding amyloid. Though doctors will more often start a diagnosis by giving people sophisticated memory tests.
Zaldy Tan: Obtaining a thorough medical history, performing a physical neurologic exam, getting labs, neuroimaging, typically that is how we had diagnosed Alzheimer's disease.
Fischman: That is Alzheimer’s expert Zaldy Tan.
Tan: I'm a memory disorder specialist as well as medical director of the Yona Goldbridge Center for Alzheimer's disease at Cedars Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, California.
Lewis: Did Tan mention why doctors want blood tests if they already have these lumbar punctures that work well?
Fischman: As a matter of fact, he did.
Tan: First of all, patients don't like it very much when you do that. It involves, you know, a pretty long needle that.. you have to stick in someone's back and get a sample.
Lewis: Ouch! That sounds painful.
Fischman: No kidding. And as for the PET scans, there are not a lot of places around the country that do them, so there’s a long wait. Plus they’re expensive and insurance may not cover them.
Lewis: I can see why a blood test would be more convenient.
So the idea is that if tests show you have brain amyloid, you could take drugs that help, right?
Fischman: Right.
Lewis: I sense there’s a “but” coming...
Fischman: Yep. And here it is.
Tan: We don't routinely look for amyloid in the workup for someone with memory issues because there's a subset of individuals who will get amyloid positivity without having disease.
Lewis: So what he’s saying is, tests for amyloid can be positive, but people can still be fine mentally?
Fischman: Exactly. He went into more detail.
Tan: There is a study that’s almost 10 years old now, where they followed close to 3,000 individuals. And what they found was that people who are age 50, who don’t have memory issues, even in formal testing, 10 percent of them will be amyloid positive. And if you look at people who are 90 years old, about 45–50 percent of them will be amyloid positive. Again, these are people who do not have memory issues and therefore do not have dementia.
Lewis: Wow, I’d heard that, but I didn’t realize it was that widespread. So these new blood tests can detect amyloid, but they don’t necessarily mean you’re going to get Alzheimer’s.
Fischman: Right. And they’re not cheap. The Quest test—which people can order for themselves—costs $400. And insurance isn’t going to cover it.
And here’s another thing. The tests aren’t FDA approved for diagnosing Alzheimer’s. It’s legal to put tests like these onto the market for measuring substances in the blood, but not to say that you have or don’t have a disease.
Lewis: That’s an important difference. So say a healthy person takes one of these blood tests, and it says they have high levels of amyloid. Has Tan ever had a patient like that?
Tan: Not yet. Fortunately. I'm sure that time will come. I'll ask them whether they have symptoms, whether they have functional losses or difficulty maintaining their social function, etcetera. If they have none of these, I will probably do a cognitive test and if they pass with flying colors I would say let's just wait and see. Having amyloid positive does not mean that you are going to get Alzheimer’s disease.
Lewis: So who should get this test? Like, if you have a family history of Alzheimer’s, should you check it out?
Fischman: Maybe if you have close family members who had the disease, plus a few other risk factors. Like if you’re starting to experience some mild cognitive impairment, or you’ve had a concussion or some other traumatic brain injury.
If you’re younger than age 50, you probably shouldn’t waste your time or money with the test, Quest says. That is a low risk category.
Lewis: But what happens if you do get that positive result, and then get a medical workup that confirms Alzheimer’s? Then what can you do?
Fischman: It’s tough. Even the newest drugs like Leqembi may offer limited help, just slowing cognitive decline by five months or so.
Lewis: Plus a few people in the drug trials had deadly brain bleeds. People taking blood-thinning drugs may be at extra risk for those.
Fischman: I know. That’s what’s tricky about this whole thing. It’s very personal and difficult. Maybe five more months of remembering how to cook a favorite recipe is worth it. It could be really important to you.
Or, since you might forget that recipe a few weeks later, you don’t want to risk damaging your brain even more.
Lewis: These are really tough choices. But perhaps in the future, if the drugs get better, then an early warning of disease from these blood tests may make more sense. Treatment could start sooner, and it might lead to happier results.
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I’m Tanya Lewis.
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